Curse

Gun Pierson · Jul 08, 2009, 09:00 PM // 21:00

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Originally Posted by eagleblade

think you know it all do ya? lol

Absolutely not, but as a system and network admin, I know enough to know that accounts don't miraculously get hacked. Anet can monitor suspicious transactions, that's why I think 'hackers' want to make it look like normal trade actions when they transfer the gold and put some items in the trade box.

@ Frill: An IT security specialist uses a set of skills and tools as well, but he gets officialy paid for it while a hacker does not.

@ Arkantos: yes, it's mostly the user's fault. So whatever happened, his brother did something that wasn't 'smart', as well as the second 'user' of the account.

@ Bristlebane: that's possible yes.

So whatever you guys may say, if the account indeed got hacked it is most likely a mistake on his brother's end. My first post was more like a teasing remark, that's why I added the big grin smiley.

What the puppeteer says a few posts below is possible too.

Ghost Omel · Jul 08, 2009, 09:25 PM // 21:25

Hacker.. None of them are good.. There are just stupid and clumsy ones. You got the combination of both be LUCKY .

mrvrod · Jul 08, 2009, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by Ghost Omel

Hacker.. None of them are good.. There are just stupid and clumsy ones. You got the combination of both be LUCKY .

Hey now, I consider myself a bit of a hacker. The problem is the term is misused because of misunderstanding and hollywood. Nothing wrong with a good hacker.

Now crackers and script kiddies....

the Puppeteer · Jul 08, 2009, 10:18 PM // 22:18

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

Hackers don't play on hacked accounts, they steal the good stuff and move on looking for the next victim.

This...

My bet is OP's brother gave the account to a friend & forgot

Nodakim · Jul 08, 2009, 10:42 PM // 22:42

....Because all hackers are member of a organziation with strict rules and codes.
And an IQ test!

Donovan Cyclonus · Jul 08, 2009, 10:52 PM // 22:52

You think if they set that up to happen to their account they'd tell us about it?

That'd be pretty stupid so the OP is either ridicilously stupid or the hacker was. And the OP doesn't speak in a stupid way, so I'm taking the high road on this one and saying "lol k"

Cale Roughstar · Jul 09, 2009, 12:15 AM // 00:15

Omg, my account got hacked today, my friend gave me that account, and all I did to it was make a perma-sin and farm ectos! Support are being the usual losers and not giving me my account back. Hackers are faggots!

(SOMEONE had to say it

)

The Scorpion Knight · Jul 09, 2009, 02:28 AM // 02:28

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Originally Posted by Cale Roughstar

Omg, my account got hacked today, my friend gave me that account, and all I did to it was make a perma-sin and farm ectos! Support are being the usual losers and not giving me my account back. Hackers are faggots!

(SOMEONE had to say it

)

Was waiting for that lol.

But congrats on the free stuff, can never complain about that lol.

subarucar · Jul 09, 2009, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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Originally Posted by Short

Oh stop being so sceptical. I for one believe the OP and wish this would happen to my account! I need the break and the money!

PM Your acc details and ill get to work right away

Omega Precept · Jul 09, 2009, 03:11 AM // 03:11

Finally a little justice for us who play by the rules

Now if we could just some how find away to eliminate all the players who flood the economy by purchasing gold online from Chinese slavers...

*Paris* · Jul 09, 2009, 03:41 AM // 03:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cale Roughstar

Omg, my account got hacked today, my friend gave me that account, and all I did to it was make a perma-sin and farm ectos! Support are being the usual losers and not giving me my account back. Hackers are faggots!

(SOMEONE had to say it

)

No, they didn't.

@the Op. I could see this happen - people are naturally stupid.

pumpkin pie · Jul 09, 2009, 10:34 AM // 10:34

I don't think the person who has been leveling your brother's account is a hacker, he might have bought that account from a hacker.

Ghost Omel · Jul 09, 2009, 01:03 PM // 13:03

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Originally Posted by mrvrod

Hey now, I consider myself a bit of a hacker. The problem is the term is misused because of misunderstanding and hollywood. Nothing wrong with a good hacker.

Now crackers and script kiddies....

Hacker and Computer negeniiere and software developer are different things.

no things as a "GOOD" hacker... look up the meaning of the word "good"....
as in Good and Evil

There are "SKILLFULL" Hackers. but no HACKER is a good 1.. Hacker implies going into areas were they shouldnt be.. thus being Bad evile or simply put a.. Criminal

So your a criminal right?

unless ya want to rephrase yourself and say i am a Skillfull Computer Engenier -_-

Fril Estelin · Jul 09, 2009, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

@ Frill: An IT security specialist uses a set of skills and tools as well, but he gets officialy paid for it while a hacker does not.

The only difference is "official". Hackers get paid by the job, a lot more than if they were IT engineers doing similar pentest activities, because their "employers" are much richer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Omel

no things as a "GOOD" hacker... look up the meaning of the word "good"....
as in Good and Evil

Never heard of "white hat hacker"?

Nodakim · Jul 09, 2009, 02:42 PM // 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Omel

Hacker and Computer negeniiere and software developer are different things.

no things as a "GOOD" hacker... look up the meaning of the word "good"....
as in Good and Evil

There are "SKILLFULL" Hackers. but no HACKER is a good 1.. Hacker implies going into areas were they shouldnt be.. thus being Bad evile or simply put a.. Criminal

So your a criminal right?

unless ya want to rephrase yourself and say i am a Skillfull Computer Engenier -_-

That would be make sense is there was such a thing as evil/good.

Mordakai · Jul 09, 2009, 02:53 PM // 14:53

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Originally Posted by Nodakim

That would be make sense if there was such a thing as evil/good.

Moral nihilism?

Look, every culture has definitions of "evil" and "good."

Sure, we can debate what is "evil" and what is "good", but a debate doesn't mean the concept doesn't exist.

Ghost Omel · Jul 09, 2009, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by Nodakim

That would be make sense is there was such a thing as evil/good.

-_- i was simply saying there are skillfull hackers that are good at what they do...good implies a person that is not evil

You sayung there is no such thing as good or evil?.......

Skilfull hacker=/="Good" hacker because hackers arent good they are rotten bad....b =)

Trying to find a falw in wording is a resort that is used by people who have no decent counter-argument or Trolls

P/S this is fun

Fril Estelin · Jul 09, 2009, 04:09 PM // 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Omel

-_- i was simply saying there are skillfull hackers that are good at what they do...good implies a person that is not evil

You would be shocked at how the security industry works.

As I said before, learn what a "white hat hacker" is.

And then meet one.

Ghost Omel · Jul 09, 2009, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

You would be shocked at how the security industry works.

As I said before, learn what a "white hat hacker" is.

And then meet one.

They are also called Computer engeniers -_- and Software testers -_- what else i knew while in my C class -_-.......

from a dictionary

Hacker -a programmer who breaks into computer systems in order to steal or change or destroy information as a form of cyber-terrorism

From Wiki

Computer Engineering (also called Electronic and Computer Engineering or Computer Systems Engineering) is a discipline that combines both Electrical Engineering and Computer Science.[1] Computer engineers usually have training in electrical engineering, software design and hardware-software integration instead of only software engineering or electrical engineering. Computer engineers are involved in many aspects of computing, from the design of individual microprocessors, personal computers, and supercomputers, to circuit design. This field of engineering not only focuses on how computer systems themselves work, but also how they integrate into the larger picture.[2]

And this is as well

Software Testing is an empirical investigation conducted to provide stakeholders with information about the quality of the product or service under test[1], with respect to the context in which it is intended to operate. Software Testing also provides an objective, independent view of the software to allow the business to appreciate and understand the risks at implementation of the software. Test techniques include, but are not limited to, the process of executing a program or application with the intent of finding software bugs. Software Testing can also be stated as the process of validating and verifying that a software program/application/product (1) meets the business and technical requirements that guided its design and development; (2) works as expected; and (3) can be implemented with the same characteristics.

Happy? i did both of the things you asked. an extra -_-

Nodakim · Jul 09, 2009, 09:43 PM // 21:43

You are taking information from wiki and dictionary?
Geesh,and if you do,at least read the whole article,not just the part you like.
-_-

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Hacker attitudes

Several subgroups of the computer underground with different attitudes and aims use different terms to demarcate themselves from each other, or try to exclude some specific group with which they do not agree. Eric S. Raymond advocates that members of the computer underground should be called crackers. Yet, those people see themselves as hackers and even try to include the views of Raymond in what they see as one wider hacker culture, a view harshly rejected by Raymond himself. Instead of a hacker – cracker dichotomy, they give more emphasis to a spectrum of different categories, such as white hat (ethical hacking), grey hat, black hat and script kiddie. In contrast to Raymond, they usually reserve the term cracker to refer to black hat hackers, or more generally hackers with unlawful intentions.

White hat = Hacker
Main article: White hat

A white hat hacker breaks security for non-malicious reasons, for instance testing their own security system. This type of hacker enjoys learning and working with computer systems, and consequently gains a deeper understanding of the subject. Such people normally go on to use their hacking skills in legitimate ways, such as becoming security consultants. The word 'hacker' was originally used to describe people such as these.

Grey hat
Main article: Grey hat

A grey hat hacker is a hacker of ambiguous ethics and/or borderline legality, often frankly admitted.

Black hat = Cracker
Main article: Black hat

A black hat hacker is someone who subverts computer security without authorization or uses technology (usually a computer or the Internet) for vandalism (malicious destruction), credit card fraud, identity theft, intellectual property theft, or other types of crime.

Script kiddie
Main article: Script kiddie

A script kiddie is a non-expert who breaks into computer systems by using pre-packaged automated tools written by others. These are the outcasts of the hacker community. Also referred to as a Skiddiot.

Hacktivist
Main article: Hacktivism

A hacktivist is a hacker who utilizes technology to announce a social, ideological, religious, or political message. In general, most hactivism involves website defacement or denial-of-service attacks. In more extreme cases, hactivism is used as tool for Cyberterrorism.